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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 17, 2006 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

i'm pretty sure the "mud love buddy jam" was one of the post terrapin jams off one of the 1990 dicks picks

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Poster: mcglone Date: Nov 17, 2006 2:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

mind left body and mud love buddy are one in the same. it was retitled mud love buddy, to avoid potential copyright issues with a label. see paul kantner's, your mind has left your body.


This post was modified by mcglone on 2006-11-17 22:11:04

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 17, 2006 2:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

ok - now i am confused. i always thought that (more of less) the mind left mody jams were the china-rider segue's that sounded kinda similar. the march 90 knickerbocker arena Terrapin outro jam was called the mud love buddy jam on the cd which sounded nothing like the mind left jams.

i know i'm probably being stupid, but did it matter that the jams sounded nothing alike?? i guess im not quite sure how to phrase my question, but i am kinda mixed up on the jam phraseology in this case.

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Poster: ksantilli Date: Nov 18, 2006 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

Dire- I believe you are correct with great examples on DP12 and the Bonus Songs disc from The Grateful Dead movie DVD, both of them listing Mind Left Body Jam.

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Poster: mcglone Date: Nov 18, 2006 7:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

from what i've hammered out this morning (and we'll use DP 12 as an example),

uncle johns band jam - china>ujb jam>rider

mind left body jam - WRS>jam>(5:00 mark) mlb begins.

make sense?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 18, 2006 7:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

i think this is even getting more confusing to my poor brain between what you and ksantilli are saying - lol. i'm gonna have to look into this further tonight too.

still gotta pull out that mud love buddy jam to check out that chord progression - very curious if it is similar to those china rider segue jam chord progressions from the early 70's.

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Poster: mcglone Date: Nov 17, 2006 2:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

think 10-19-73/ DP 19 dark star, about two minutes out of the verse a classic mlb progression begins. another popular example, 7-31-74 out of truckin', but before the spanish jam.

here's a better breakdown of it's history.

This origin of this jam has long been unknown. The current name given to it
is a reference to "You Mind has Left Your Body," a song from an obscure and
I believe out-of-print album by the Jefferson Airplane. However, it is a
basic and not very original chord progression and does not need to be
derivative of any source. It's very likely that Weir came up with the chords
during a jam. However, if I may suggest an alternative source, these chords
are the same as the intro to the Paul McCartney song "Man We Was Lonely" off
his first solo album, 1970's "McCartney." On this same album is another
song the Dead would play years later, "That Would Be Something," so we can be sure that Garcia was familiar with the album.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 17, 2006 2:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

hmmm - maybe that mud from the terrapin i'm thinking of actually does sound like the mlb jams from the early 70's then. just at a much much slower pace. can't quite hear it accurately in my mind. will have to pull that out to see if it is a similar chord progression. if it is, ive learned something new today :)

they certainly have the same initials anyways

thanks ian

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Poster: mcglone Date: Nov 17, 2006 3:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

arrggg! i just googled DP's 12 and the dead's own merch page refers to the jam between china and rider as mind left body as they do the four chord progression i was speaking of earlier. how very dead of them eh? lol btw, i refer to the china/rider jam as dancing happy snoopy on his roof!

purple gel? midnight sun? dr? earl b?

anyway, i've got to run. jess is due home any minute and it's her 30th. she's pretty forgiving, but i doubt she'll understand my ignoring her tonight in lew of this great debate.

have a good weekend man.

ian


This post was modified by mcglone on 2006-11-17 23:01:29

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 17, 2006 3:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Questions

happy birthday to your lady!!

have a great weekend as well ian :)

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